Friday, September 17, 2010

Do Thumb Rings Signal Bisexuality for Women?

Question:
I've heard that thumb rings are a way for a bisexual women to signal to the rest of the bisexual community that she swings both ways. Is this true? Are thumb rings an invitation for other bisexual women?


Answer:
It depends on the groups you hang out with, but as a general rule, no. Maybe at one time it did, but so many people wear thumb rings nowadays, that most of the time, it just means that the person wearing them just likes to accessorize. You might go to a club or a city where an informal code has been established, where certain accessories or articles of clothing are used as signals to the other people who are there, but that will be specific to that place or occasion. 


The signals can change from place to place and time to time, too. Remember in the 80's when an earring in the left ear meant a guy was gay? That quickly became a thing of the past when every rock star and celebrity started to wear them and the general population quickly followed suit. Mullets used to be a pretty good signal for lesbians in the 80's, too, until Nascar came around and every Billy Bob and their mother was sporting the stylish do. Then we had to resort to the skinny braids in our otherwise short hair and an ear cuff to put it out there...who knows what happened to that secret signal, but we don't miss that particular style one bit!


For a long time, gays and lesbians had to resort to subtle clues in order to identify one another. It was a safe way for them to find partners without having to out themselves to potentially dangerous people. Many of us still like the feeling of inclusion it brings when we display things like a rainbow sticker or a certain pendant. Feeling like an outsider in so many other aspects of our lives, it is a comfort when someone "in the know" recognizes our affiliation. But this isn't uncommon- Masons have their rings, football teams have their jerseys, affluent women have their Coach bags...it's everywhere you look.


Most of us would gladly discard the cool club signals we've had to use through the years in exchange for basic acceptance and the ability to live openly without fear of harassment, violence, or dirty looks.



Thursday, September 16, 2010

Why are Peaches Softer than Nectarines?

Question:
Why are peaches softer than nectarines?


Answer:
Is this a trick question? We did say we'd answer anything, though, so we're glad you asked!


We were going to say that comparing nectarines to peaches is like comparing apples to oranges. But to our great surprise, it's not. Beyond the whole citrus versus non-citrus thing making apples and oranges a good contrasting metaphor, peaches and nectarines are almost the same thing. The difference is in a recessive gene that gives a peach the fuzz and the nectarine the smooth shaved feel.


Like most fruit, peaches and nectarines have several different varieties, some of which are softer or firmer than others. Different varieties have fruit that clings to the pit and others have fruit that is free of the pit, which is called freestone. The varieties that are freestone tend to be softer than the cling varieties.


Most of us get our fruit from the grocery store, and more grocery stores carry freestone peaches which tend to be softer than the cling peaches. Nectarines are more prone to blight and other crop hazards, and the cling varieties tend to be most hearty, so that's what the grocery stores tend to carry, hence the impression that peaches are softer than nectarines.


Something we found during our extensive and intensive research is that once the fruit is picked it no longer ripens. It's actually getting softer because the flesh is breaking down (ie- it is rotting). Keeping the fruit in the refrigerator will slow down this process.
Peach
Nectarine

(Images courtesy of Photobucket.com)



Why Do So Many Lesbians Have Tattoos?

Question:
Why do so many lesbians have tattoos? Is it a sign to attract other lesbians? Is it a self-destructive tendency?

Answer:
This is a tough question. Why does anyone get a tattoo? We think that there are probably just as many reasons for getting a tattoo as there are people with tattoos, and this article by the BBC seems to back us up. People get tattoos as acts of rebellion, to feel sexy, to display their individuality, to display their affiliations, to get back at an ex, to show devotion, to mark their adulthood, to mark their youth, and everything else in between.

Like you, though, we have noticed that a larger percentage of our gay and lesbian friends have tattoos than our straight friends and when we went online to check that out we found that, at least according to vanishingtattoo.com, indeed, gays and lesbians do have a higher instance of tattoo than their straight counterparts.

As for why gays seem to have a higher instance of having tattoos, our guess is that it may have a lot to do with the fact that we are already breaking the boundaries of common society by being gay, so it isn't that much more of a reach to break other norms. And when we do select a tattoo, often it is a going to be an image or symbol that announces our sexual orientation to others. That's not always the case, though. Between us, The Lesbos, have five tattoos and none of them are lesbian or gay symbols. Some of the more popular lesbian tattoos are rainbow anything, two female signs, nautical stars, and the labrys.

Two Female Symbols
Nautical Stars

Tattoo of a Labrys

(Photos courtesy of Photobucket.com)

RE: DADT - How Will the Military Integrate Gays and Straights?

Question:
RE: Gays serving openly in the military.  How do you feel the issue of housing, showering etc. would be met?  Women and men military members don't live or bath together for the obvious reason of sexual attraction.  If gays are integrated with straights in this setting it would be very uncomfortable for straights.  However, if gays are in these types of situations together it would be the same as having female and males together.  What's the answer?


Answer:
At the risk of sounding glib, the answer is that it is already happening. There are more gays in the military than you probably would guess. They are already sharing showers and barracks with the rest of the troops.


Contrary to some people's fears, most gays are not on the prowl to recruit straight people into our ranks and we are capable of keeping our work life separate from our social lives. If anything, serving openly will allow gays and straights to establish their boundaries more clearly. A gay guy or woman isn't likely to hit on a straight person if they know they aren't interested. Taking that mystique away will probably be a breath of fresh air for those who are constantly afraid of dropping the soap in the shower!

Friday, September 10, 2010

DADT Ruled Unconstitutional by Riverside CA Judge!

This is a follow up post to the August 16, 2010 post where we provided information on DADT.


Yesterday brought some awesome news!


U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips ruled that the policy violates the First Amendment rights of gays and lesbians. As part of her ruling, Phillips made a statement that said that DADT doesn't support military readiness and, in fact, has a "direct and deleterious effect" on the armed services.


The San Diego Gay and Lesbian News has a wonderful detailed article explaining how the Log Cabin Republicans came to challenge the policy and the process that preceded the decision to strike DADT as unconstitutional.


The next step is for Judge Phillips to issue an order to stop the enforcement of the unconstitutional policy.


Our hope is that it won't take our government and military leaders too long to implement the changes needed to get rid of this terrible policy once and for all.

Saturday, September 4, 2010

The Gay Hankie Code

No one asked this question, but we thought it was a fun one and we just thought we'd share this with you. For anyone who has ever been to a gay pride event or some gay bars and ever wondered about the bandannas. We snagged the below chart from GayCityUSA.com

There will be a quiz!

Happy Labor Day Weekend! Be safe!

The Lesbos



COLOR
WORN ON LEFT
WORN ON RIGHT
BLACK
heavy SM top
heavy SM bottom
GREY
bondage top
fit to be tied!
BLACK w/WHITE Check
safe sex top
safe sex bottom
GREY W/BLACK light SM top light SM bottom
GREY FLANNEL
owns a suit
likes men in suits
BLACK w/WHITE Stripe
likes black bottoms
likes black tops
CHARCOAL
latex fetish top
latex fetish bottom
BLACK VELVET
has/takes videos
will perform for the camera
BLUE, Light
wants head
cocksucker
BLUE, Robin's Egg
69er
anything but 69ing
BLUE, Medium
cop
copsucker
BLUE, Navy
fucker (top)
fuckee (bottom)
BLUE, Airforce
pilot/flight attendant
likes flyboys
BLUE, Light w/WHITE Stripe
sailor
lookin' for salty seamen
BLUE, Teal
cock & ball torturer
cock & ball torturee
RED
fist fucker
fist fuckee
RED w/WHITE Stripe
shaver
shavee
RED w/BLACK Stripe
furry bear
likes bears
MAROON
cuts
bleeds
RED, Dark
2-handed fister
2-handed fistee
PINK, Light
dildo fucker
dildo fuckee
PINK, Dark
tit torturer
tit torturee
MAUVE
into navel worshippers
has a navel fetish
FUSCHIA
spanker
spankee
MAGENTA
suck my pits
armpit freak
PURPLE
piercer
piercee
LAVENDER
likes drag queens
drag queen
YELLOW
pisser/WaterSports
piss freak
YELLOW, Pale
spits
drool crazy
MUSTARD
hung 8"+
wants 8"+
GOLD
two looking for one
one looking for two
YELLOW w/WHITE Stripe
likes Asian bottoms
likes Asian tops
GOLD LAME
likes muscleboy bottoms
likes muscleboy tops
ORANGE
anything anytime
nothing now (just cruising)
APRICOT
two tons o' fun
chubby chaser
CORAL
suck my toes
shrimper (sucks toes)
RUST
a cowboy
a cowboy's horse
GREEN, Kelly
hustler (for rent)
john (looking to buy)
GREEN, Hunter
daddy
orphan boy looking for daddy
OLIVE DRAB
military top
military bottom
GREEN, Lime
dines off tricks (food)
dinner plate (will buy dinner)
BEIGE
rimmer
rimmee
BROWN
scat top
scat bottom
BROWN LACE
uncut
likes uncut
BROWN SATIN
cut
likes cut
BROWN w/WHITE Stripe
likes latino bottoms
likes latino tops
WHITE
beat my meat (J/O)
I'll do us both (J/O)
HOLSTEIN
milker
milkee
CREAM
cums in condoms
sucks cum out of condoms
WHITE LACE
likes white bottoms
likes white tops
WHITE VELVET
voyeur (likes to watch)
will put on a show
BLUE, Light w/WHITE Dots
likes white suckers
likes to suck whites
BLUE, Light w/BLACK Dots
likes black suckers
likes to suck blacks
BLUE, Light w/BROWN Dots
likes latino suckers
likes to suck latinos
BLUE, Light w/YELLOW Dots
likes asian suckers
likes to suck asians
RED/WHITE GINGHAM
park sex top
park sex bottom
BROWN CORDUROY
headmaster
student
FUR
bestialist top
bestialist bottom
SILVER LAME
starfucker
celebrity
LEOPARD
has tattoos
likes tattoos
TAN
smokes cigars
likes cigars
TEDDY BEAR
cuddler
cuddlee
PAISLEY
wears boxer shorts
likes boxer shorts
UNION JACK
skinhead top
skinhead bottom
MOSQUITO NETTING
outdoor sex top
outdoor sex bottom
KEWPIE DOLL
chicken (under-aged)
chicken hawk (likes young adolescents)
DIRTY JOCKSTRAP
wears a dirty jock
sucks dirty jocks clean
DOILY
tearoom top (pours)
tearoom bottom (drinks)
ZIPLOC BAG
has drugs
looking for drugs
COCKTAIL NAPKIN
bartender
bar groupie
KLEENEX
stinks
sniffs
KEYS IN FRONT
has a car
looking for a ride
KEYS IN BACK
has a home
needs a place to stay
HOUNDSTOOTH
likes to nibble
willing to be bitten
CALICO
new in town
tourists welcome
TERRYCLOTH
bathhouse top
bathhouse bottom
WHITE w/MULTICOLOR Dots
hosting an orgy
looking for an orgy

Thursday, September 2, 2010

A question about toys.

Question 
Okay here it goes. Do all same sex couples (female ones) use a strap on? Or do they connect without toys at all?

Answer
It is a mix. It all depends on the couple and what they are both comfortable with. Some couples don't use them at all (finding them offensive or unnecessary) while some use them exclusively. However, most couples use them some of the time and other times use different methods of enjoyment and pleasure. It all comes down to pleasing the person you are with within both of your own comfort zones. The great part about lesbian sex is that almost all the time both parties come away happy because they are both so concerned about pleasing each other, usually multiple times (that is easier when it just women). I could go into more detail but this is a non erotic blog. 

Wednesday, September 1, 2010

Is there really such a thing as "gaydar"?


Question:
Is there really such a thing as "gaydar"? What is it exactly?


Answer:
Absolutely! There is definitely such a thing as Gaydar, which is the ability for someone, gay or straight, to determine if someone is gay just by watching  them. When asked how gaydar works, most people would describe it as a "feeling" they get, more than specific cues the other person is giving off.


Gaydar is rarely 100% accurate, but there are some people who will claim that they have never been wrong. However, the more recent emergence of people known as metrosexuals has challenged the gaydar of the best of us. While people of any sexual orientation might have gaydar, it is usually found to be more accurate with gay people. Recently, studies have started to indicate that gay people have developed a more attuned attention to detail so that they can discern other gay people in a crowd, but we gays have known that all along! You kind of want to know that you're not gonna be whacked upside the head when you ask someone out, so you learn to figure out the signs.


Bonus knowledge for you word of the day fanatics. Gaydar is a portmanteau. What is a portmanteau, you ask? It is a word that is formed by two different words. Most of you are smart enough to figure out the two words that are used in Gaydar are Gay and Radar. We never heard the word portmanteau before, so we learned something, too!

Sunday, August 29, 2010

Should my son come out to his grandparents?

Question:
Please give me your thoughts of young, gay adults coming out to their Grandparents. I personally believe that some grandparents may be aware of the situation but would prefer not to be confronted with it. If that's the case, then it just sort of confirms to the gay that it's not OK.....I'm perplexed. I am a proud Mom of a proud Son, and although I have not been asked for my opinion, I would like to have thought this one through when and if it comes up for discussion.

Answer:
Our personal belief is that anyone who is important in your life deserves to know you for who you are. Sure, we don't always tell people everything about ourselves- for instance, who wants to know about Kim's massive Homies collection? But, since being gay involves other important relationships in your life, it is a pretty big thing to try to avoid. What kind of relationship can you have with someone if they don't know something so fundamental about you? But we also know that it's really scary to come out- especially if the relationship with the person you are coming out to really matters to you. So sometimes it's easier to avoid coming out rather than face the possibility of rejection and, in some instances, out right hostility.

It seems from your question that you are leaving it up to your son to come out to his grandparents and we are proud of you for recognizing that it is his decision on if/when/how he comes out to them. That leads us to your very good point that some people do not want to be confronted with the news that someone they know is gay. 

There is a huge difference between coming out and being confrontational. Unfortunately, many people avoid the issue until it comes up in conversation. Waiting until it comes up is usually fine with casual acquaintances, but it usually isn't the best way with the primary relationships in our lives. The longer it takes to come up organically in some conversation, increases the instances of avoiding certain topics, sidestepping innocent questions, and possibly leading to actual deception. All of this sidestepping- possibly by both parties, since the other person may already suspect and might be trying to honor the other person's privacy- can start to become tiring and/or frustrating and once it does come up, it may not be in the gentle and loving way that either would have preferred it to be. Instead, it could take the gay person off guard and, instead of being open and eloquent in their news, they may become defensive, apologetic, or even confrontational about it. The person they are talking to, may also be defensive because they resent that the person didn't trust them enough to be receptive. So BANG! confrontation!

So, in short, it is our opinion that it is completely up to your son as to whether he should come out to his grandparents, but if it was us, we would, and we'd make sure to let them know we're doing it because their relationship is so important to us.

By the way- we think that you are an awesome mom for being so in touch with your son's issues in navigating his coming out process. Every gay kid should have a mother as accepting, supportive, and loving as you!

Have you ever been in a relationship that your partner wasn't out nor was she strong enough to come out?

Question
Have you ever been in a relationship that your partner wasn't out nor was she strong enough to come out?

Answer
Yes, one of us was. It was while in college. She was only out to a few close friends. She didn't even really talk about it to those few friends. It is really hard to come out no matter who you are or what kind of family and friends you have. However, it is especially hard to come out in a heavily religious environment where we lived. I was out to everyone except my parents until about 7 years ago. My ex eventually came out a few years after our relationship ended, when she was in a different relationship with a friend of mine (yeah that was difficult and awkward at first). It was hard to watch her do things in that relationship she was never willing to do when she was with me. In hind sight I guess she wasn’t emotionally or mentally ready for the kind of committed relationship I needed. I think I helped her get to that point. However, she may not see it that way.
I have friends that didn't come out to their parents until they were in their late thirties or even later or not at all. The fear of friends and especially family disowning you is so great some people are willing to lie their entire lives just to keep those relationships. That is one reason gay communities are so tight. A lot of gay and lesbian people are thrown out of their homes as teenagers or disowned later in life when their family finds out. When things like that happen, you make your own family. A Family you choose.

Friday, August 27, 2010

Do you think Vaughn Walker should have excused himself from the Proposition 8 case because he was gay?

Question:
Do you think Vaughn Walker should have excused himself from the Proposition 8 case because he was gay?

Answer:
It's probably bad form to answer a question with another question, but who would have tried the case then? A straight judge? Wouldn't they have the potential of bias going the opposite way?

Aside from that, take into consideration that Vaughn Walker was a scary choice for the gay community when he was randomly selected to oversee the Proposition 8 trial. His tendency to lean toward the right in his rulings and the controversial judgments he has been involved in, such as the 1980's ruling against a gay organization about using the term Gay Olympics, had many people in the gay community worrying about his bias going the other way.

The plain and simple fact is that it is impossible to find a judge who has no potential for bias in this case, just as it was when white men decided civil rights for black people and men made decisions for woman's suffrage. No matter who is chosen, either side can cry foul. So, we had to leave it the system to be fair.

Is homosexuality genetic or environmental?

Question:
Do you think all lesbians or homosexuals in general are born that way? Do you think that there could be some negative event in their life that turns their sexual orientation at some point? For instance, I know a boy who was molested by his grandfather for years. When he was about 16 he declared himself gay and has been ever since. Would he have been gay anyway?

Answer:
First of all, we are truly, truly sorry for the abuse your friend experienced. If we could take just a portion of the energy that has been wasted over the gay debate and focus it on eradicating pedophiles, we think the world would be a much better place.

So, on to the million dollar question! Are gays born or made?

The short answer is that it has not yet been empirically proven one way or the other, but continuing studies seem to suggest that it is probably genetic and that environmental factors, including biological conditions occurring en utero contribute to defining a person's sexual orientation.

The longer answer is that studies continue to be made and we are getting closer to determining a more concrete answer in the scientific sense, but we have never met a single gay person who has said they were made gay. Everyone of our friends we've discussed this with, and it comes up often, is that we were born this way. Even those of us who came out later in life, know that we were always gay and social pressure was the reason for for the delay in figuring it out.

As far as research goes, though, one of the most comprehensive studies occurred in Sweden in 2007 and contained the largest sample of gay twins to date. The Swedish study, along with several other subsequent studies, appear to indicate that the sexual orientation of the subject is genetic, with environmental factors providing some effect. Another interesting study performed in 2007 seems to indicate that a group of genes may be the key to sexual orientation. The study discusses the biological environment en utero primarily focusing on testosterone exposure at key points of development, among many other interesting ideas. Our favorite quote from the linked article is when the researcher says
“Bullshit...A mathematical model is a nice exercise, a mental masturbation about how these things could work, but it makes better sense to do that once we know a bit more..."
Hehe! "mental masturbation"- brainy naughtiness! (Not that there is anything wrong with masturbation!) Anyway...

On a lighter note, a more recent study performed in South Korea found that a gay gene may have been found in female mice. By removing a single gene they found that female mice will gravitate toward other females. The gene's name: FucM. We didn't make that up! That's scientific.

Proving the existence of a gay gene would be a blessing and a curse for us. To finally get the religious right to stop trying to pray the gay away or, better yet, stop the psychologically damaging practice of trying to convert gays to straight, would take away a lot of the negative energy behind the condemnation of gays, and go a long way toward establishing peace for this controversial subject. But scary, scary, scary, is the thought of what people may resort to if they knew how to identify the gay gene and then start thinking about how to eradicate it. This would turn the whole abortion debate around on it's head. Think about it, progressives and conservatives alike, would have to rethink their stand on abortion. Being pro-choice, it would be hard for us to support another woman exercising her right to choice just because the baby might be gay. It's not for us to judge- but that would be tough...and a subject for another day.

What is the male equivalent of 'lesbian'?

Question:
What is the male equivalent of lesbian? 'Gay' seems to be the term to encompass both male and female homosexuals. 'Lesbian' is the term for female homosexuals, and it's not considered derogatory (depending on your circle). What is the term for a *male* homosexual that is not derogatory?

Answer:
Gay is the only term for a male homosexual that can be used with no fear of derogatory undertones.

The acronym LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) is a good reference when in doubt since those are the universally accepted terms for describing the non-straight community.

The term "gay" had been adopted by society in general over the last two decades, to include both homosexual men and women. You'd probably get as many different answers as the number of people you ask as to the evolution of lesbians referring to themselves as gay, but we are willing to bet that it was simply a matter of simplifying things. Instead of writing "gays and lesbians" in everything that was written about us, writers just shortened it to "gays".

Interestingly enough, the term "lesbian" seems to predate "gay" as far as the etymology of the words goes. "Lesbian" referred to homosexual women as early at the 1880's or 1890's, while "gay" was used to mean a homosexual male in 1971. Prior to that "gay" meant promiscuous when used in terms of describing a man or woman, whether they were homosexual or straight.

Thursday, August 26, 2010

How have you prepared your children to deal with questions about having lesbian parents?

Question:
Coming from a family with lesbian parents, your kids must get questions at school. How have you prepared them for these questions [teasing]? Have there been any incidents where coming from a lesbian family has been an issue?

Answer:
We're so glad you asked this! This is something we are pretty proud of, because our kids, at least the two older ones so far, are excellent at this!

It's hard to answer, though! Raising kids is hard. Anyone who has done it knows that there is no silver bullet. Teaching a kid how to deal with assholes...did we write that out loud? Ooops! What we meant to write is, teaching a kid to effectively deal with misbehaving kids, (who are probably just mirroring the opinions and behavior of their own parents), is beyond hard. We wish it was as easy as giving them a pamphlet, teaching them Karate, or coaching them on scathing retorts. It's an art form, and they have to figure out for themselves what works best for them.

If we had to distill our attempts into a short(ish) answer, though, we'd have to say that the main things we have done to prepare the kids are: let them chose who they want to know about their lesbian parents, give them the communication skills to deal with those who do, provide them with the confidence they need to stand their ground, give respect while demanding respect in turn, and finally to behave how they expect others to behave.

Letting them choose who they tell gives them some control over a situation they didn't ask to be in, and it takes away any pressure that could cause them to develop their own negative feelings about the situation. Taking away that pressure helps to lessen the potential of developing poor coping skills borne out of anger, frustration, shame, or obligation to protect the parents who are supposed to protect them. We have never given them any pressure to be "out" just because we are. When we made the decision to be out for ourselves, we were adults, and had developed better tools to deal with negative responses to those who might respond poorly. But it's different for kids, and we try to be sensitive to that. Also, we hope that through our own actions, the girls are able to see how open we are, and learn to feel comfortable about being open in their own ways.

Communication skills are huge. We are huge communicators. We talk about everything. When the kids face new situations, we talk it out with them especially if they feel having lesbian moms is going to come up. We discuss the pros and cons of telling people and whether it is even necessary.

Both of our older daughters are very confident young women, and the youngest seems to be following in her sisters' footsteps. This confidence has provided our girls with the ability to present themselves in a manner that does not invite other kids to mess with them too much and,  on the rare occasions that they do, the girls don't ever feel the need to back down or resort to violence to deal with them. Most of the time, their confidence dispels the need to tease, taunt, or otherwise harass them in the first place. Scads of books have been written on raising confident children. Sometimes we think it was dumb luck that helped us pull it off, but we've committed to the effort, and so far it seems to have worked.  

Respect is a key ingredient to any relationship, and we have taught our kids to respect other people, regardless of who they are, until they prove that they do not deserve their respect. We want them to be open to a diversity of people, beliefs, and differing opinions. The don't have to agree, but they do have to respect the individual's right to their thoughts. Of course, at home, when it comes to a difference of opinion that requires a final decision, say- curfews, drugs, promiscuity, too much cleavage showing, or doing the dishes- Mom's opinion trumps all others! But we talk about it, and sometimes we change our mind based on respectfully presented and well thought out arguments- except about the drugs, cleavage, and promiscuity things.

Behaving how you expect others to behave is very similar to the Golden Rule (which is a guiding principle in our lives), except it leans more toward the lead by example aspect of it. Basically, what we try to convey by this is that, if you treat others like a dick, they will be dicks right back. If someone treats you like a dick, and you respond with kindness, nine times out of ten, the person will stop being a  dick, or at least go away because they realize that either they were, 1) a dick and become ashamed, or 2) that they have no power over you and it's not worth the effort, so they go away. We also know that our actions teach our kids more than our words ever will and we act accordingly.

The very cool thing, (if you're still reading this tome of a post), is that neither of our older daughters have ever wanted to hide the fact that they have lesbian parents. Sure, there are times that they don't bring it up until they have time to assess the situation- we do the same thing. Boy are weglad about that, too! It's a lot of energy to live in the closet- it breeds shame and the constant worry of discovery is debilitating at times! We are grateful that being open is just part of who they are and if people don't like it, well, the girls will be happy to sit right down and discuss the issue with them! And dang! it's awesome to hear about some of the newly open minded friends they have!

All that said, there have been some incidents. Thankfully, most of it has been restricted to name calling and we feel grateful that more vicious things haven't occurred.

We'll never know whether one of our kids was excluded from a birthday party or shunned by someone because we are gay, but we feel confident that we've given our kids some valuable tools that have helped them feel proud of who they are and who their parents are.

A note from Kim: One of the most wonderful things my daughters ever said to me was on the day that I came out to them. I told them that some kids may not understand and that they might be mean to them when they find out that their mom is gay. My oldest, who was eleven at the time, simply shrugged her shoulders and said, "Then I guess I don't want to be friends with the ones who would say that." And my youngest (at the time), who had just turned six, looked at her big sister and then at me, and said with a  fierce look on her face, "Yeah, we don't want to be friends with someone who hates someone just because they're gay. That's intolerant!"